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Poster: bluedevil Date: May 26, 2012 11:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Trey Challenge: Part II

NO! Primus SUCKS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmFdIUQ16f4

Best band Trey was ever in - their show at Bonnaroo was great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmUaUItwEAw&feature=related

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Poster: bluedevil Date: May 26, 2012 12:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Trey Challenge: Part II

I told you Primus SUCKS: http://www.jambands.com/news/2012/05/26/bob-weir-joins-primus-at-summer-camp/ Sounds like tomorrow never knows and not the other one...
This post was modified by bluedevil on 2012-05-26 19:59:39

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: May 26, 2012 2:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Trey Challenge: Part II

phish is eons better than primus, or oysterhead, or w.e

phish, like the dead, is a magical combination. trey nor jerry ever played in a better band


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Poster: high flow Date: May 30, 2012 3:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Trey Challenge: Part II

Ouch.

I assume you simply left out IMHO.

I love both bands(Phish and GD). I saw Oysterhead at the Greek in Berkeley, I've seen the GD and JGB countless times all over the west. I've seen Phish play in mid-sized 2500-4500 seat venues. I've seen most of the big rock outfits(Stones, Who, Yes, Clapton, Rush, etc...) at one time or another and I've sniffed-out the best unknowns and followed their tracks as well.

It's so hard to compare the "magic" of any 2 bands. I guess I felt some magic inside the Oakland Coliseum Arena shows, particularly 10/31/1991(honoring Bill Graham) and 12/6/89(first after Loma Prieta Earthquake). Other than that I never considered any big-scale rock show to be magical.

For me, JGB at the Warfield, Los Lobos at The Fillmore, Allman Brothers & Blues Traveler at the Warfield and the untold number of bars in which I watched Little Charlie Baty play like a Giant Redwood falling spectacularly with far to few witnesses were places where magic was most likely. Baty and Estrin were magic...everytime.

Sorry to say this(and I love this band) Phish was/is fun, but not magic. Oysterhead was twisted and odd and very entertaining...not magic. I love the songs, the lyrics, the changes and I recognize the skill, but the magic falls short. I never saw them at Nectar's......maybe that's my problem.

But just like Terrapin Station at Giants Stadium, I have a hard time thinking of 2001 Space Odyssey for 40-60K fans as magical.

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: May 30, 2012 4:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Trey Challenge: Part II

well just to let it be known, I completely disregard the concert experience. When I make any of these statements its not based on what happened there, but what happens here at the desk, or in the car, etc.

I tend to leave out IMHO at points because i believe them so strongly, well they might as well be facts lol.

just another strident dead head...

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Poster: high flow Date: May 30, 2012 4:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Trey Challenge: Part II

OK, well we come from different perspectives. This entire deal of listening to live performances is merely a crutch to get me to the next live music event. It's about catching a glimpse of that live music feeling. Guitars, drums, bass, fiddles and mandolins just don't have the same resonance from a desk or driver's seat.

It's like watching the Travel Channel rather than actually going places and then calling your visit to Tuscany with Anthony Bourdain magical. IMHO.:)

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: May 30, 2012 4:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Trey Challenge: Part II

meh... I'll have to disagree. Listening to music is merely a crutch to the next concert? is it just the concert experience that you really love? we are very different if that is so...

Frankly i dont find the concert to be the supreme experience or the most objective way to analyze the music, in fact i think it makes analyzing the music much more subjective.

While i think your analogy does hold maybe some merit, most people listen to music much more frequently than they experience it live. And hence, the opinion based on solely listening to the music should hold a good deal of validity, especially as most of us criticize based on solely listening.

I've been turned off by the music scene, being a dead head who isnt much into drugs or bands that are particularly lack luster (and having lost many friends to the worthless scene), my music world is typically on my own or with a few friends. This is part of why seeking out concerts is near the bottom of my list and why i feel the concert experience should be left for another argument or outside of musical analysis or within the context of live musical experiences.

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Poster: high flow Date: May 30, 2012 4:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Trey Challenge: Part II

I understand your opinion.

I do not go to concerts for the party, I go for the music. I go to see the performers in their element and to hear the unadulterated tones from their instruments and voices. Frankly, most shows I've seen don't really translate to tape. Thus the "you had to be there" element of trying to help a non-attendee understand this music.

I'll just say this and leave it alone. The live performance is the reason why these bands exist. It is their function on the planet.

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: May 30, 2012 4:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Trey Challenge: Part II

that i will agree with, but i believe that all does stem from a love of listening to music and not solely just the love to perform.

But i just cant help to argue, it is my sole function on the planet lol.

And its refreshing to engage in what i feel is a good musical argument/discussion, i wish it happened here more.

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Poster: high flow Date: May 31, 2012 2:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Trey Challenge: Part II

Hey Wisconsin,

I thought we were done with this, but my Yahoo Horoscope for today:

"Live music is a great way to fire up a romantic relationship, so if you're working on building a connection with someone you're attracted to, take a look at upcoming concerts in your area. You'll find a nice surprise. Get tickets as soon as possible -- any hesitation, and you could miss out on a great experience. Even if you're not working on a relationship right now, taking yourself out on a nice date is a great way to remind yourself how special you are."

Too f*cking funny!

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: May 31, 2012 2:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Trey Challenge: Part II

lmao.

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: May 31, 2012 9:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Trey Challenge: Part II

Just to get some fall 72 hype in. These jams over the latter half of 72 and early 73 just take me beyond any concert or any music. This is what music is all about to me, and cant go wrong with this easy link. I suggest finishing the jam, its got a great > me and bobby mcgee > other one on top.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72iVSo6iXz8

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Poster: bluedevil Date: May 26, 2012 3:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Trey Challenge: Part II

phish is up with people on patchouli they are that nauseous feeling when the mushrooms are coming on but without the payoff that said, trey is a real nice guy and people love 'em, so more power to 'em.
This post was modified by bluedevil on 2012-05-26 22:14:36